[Vhfcn-l] Fwd: Contribution of Engineers to Army Aviation
Richard Lewis
richardlewis133 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 23 22:28:04 EDT 2017
I never knew Maj. Johnson as I did not arrive in B Co 228th until Sept 66. However i sure did enjoy the use of all the improvements made in the company area. Thanks to all you "Boat People" And a special thanks to Maj. Johnson (RIP). Richard lewisMsg, USA {ret}
On Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:46 AM, Arnold B Christensen <abc15 at mindspring.com> wrote:
B Co, 228th ASHBn also had an Engineer Officer
for a commander. Under his leadership we built
the first hot and cold shower in the Div in our
company area...instead of the long truck ride to
the shower point and worse the dusty ride
back. We also had the first EM Club built raised
up over part of the rice paddy in our company
area. We had the first solid mess hall built
with picnic tables to sit at and the cooking and
mess line separate from the eating area with an
existing tree between the two areas. We had the
first all in one building that included a barber
shop, a washing machine area separate EM and
Officer shower and sink areas and the rest of the
building was set aside to hang the cleanly washed
clothes and a Herman Nelson Heater plumbed in to
create a nice under cover drying area that could
be used during any weather to cleanly dry your
clothes. Again we had hot and cold showers and
sinks plumbed. We had wooden floors in all the GP
Tents and most had wooden walls. We also had
drainage ditches around our company area that
drained downhill to the rice paddy.
We had 3 10KW gas generators that had a bad habit
of requiring a lot of maintenance to keep them
operational. We soon had a 150 KW Genset on
skids slung in one day and made operational very quickly.
Major Johnson...RIP... had the idea back in
Benning that we were going to live in comfort
when we finished work on the flight line or came
back from a days worth of hauling ammo, food and
water and replacement clothes for the troops out
in the boonies. He had friends all over Vietnam
who he could call on for whatever we needed for
our projects and we were so lucky to have our own
Hooks sometimes loaded to the gills with what he
scrounged and some stuff came in hanging off the
cargo hook to be deposited upon arrival right at
the company front door so to speak.
He was proud of his company of men and we all
gave him our strength and time as much as we
could. His ideas made us as comfortable as could
be when we finished for the day.
Personally: When he found out I had only one
pair of combat boots size 13 1/2 to wear around
my size 15 feet and the soles had come off he
called on all the aircrews to search for boots
that would fit me on any flights to the boonies
with new clean uniform items as long as some
infantry or artillery guy did not need them.
I remember well the look on his face shortly
after that when at the lunch meal in our new mess
hall when he had the supply sgt bring him my new
boots. Seems like the whole company was there to
witness this event. "Put them on Chris", he
said. I did and shook them on my feet and I mean
they rattled all around my feet. Sadly they were
too large. Can you imagine? They were 16 Wides
and my feet were only 15 Narrows. His face
brightened up and he said to the guys to keep
searching. He would have enjoyed knowing that at
the end of my tour their in Aug 66 I had to tell
the supply sgt to send his clerks to my bunk area
and retrieve about a dozen boots of different
types and sizes and use them as trading
material. Major Johnson would have gotten a big
smile on his face at that "problem".
Sadly he was KIA piloting "his" Chinook with an
H-13 slung under it down out of an Arty position,
during the Bong Song operation, in somewhat
marginal weather and coming down a draw that they
had flown up earlier Sir Charles had sat and
waited in ambush from one side to the other and
opened up on the ship. A round hit him and he was deceased.
There were several sad days after that but in
true Hooker fashion we continued to haul whatever was needed to be hauled.
He was an Engineer Officer and took good care of "his boys" first.
Chris the Bigfoot
At 08:28 AM 8/23/2017, MoeElmore at aol.com wrote:
>Just forwarded as a possible item of
>interest. ____________________________________
>From: BSilvey at aol.com To: BSilvey at aol.com Sent:
>8/23/2017 4:39:56 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time
>Subj: Contribution of Engineers to
>Army Aviation This from our 1st Air Cav point
>of contact - some good information - we have
>several who served in TOPO units - one comes to
>mind is Bill Kelly - who reportedly accepted
>the 5th Otter form production way back in the
>1950's - he was also an Engineer. Another is
>Bill Potts, a Past President of our association
>but I don't recall if he was an Engineer -
>probably was. Mentioned below is member Del
>Deginiffe - who I knew during our battles
>in Germany in 1967. The original content is
>by Bruce Crandall, MOH for his actions with 1st
>Air Cav in RVN. The TOPO units operated in
>some extreme environments and made significant
>contributions to Army Aviation. Bruce, I
>believe this recent conversation with MOH Bruce
>Crandall about the contribution of Engineers to
>Army aviation is worth a share. Not sure how
>many “ seasoned� aviators would agree or
>disagree. Bruce made some salient points that
>probably won’t get “air time� in today
>’s world. The recent recognition and
>commendation (Gold Star?) of Medevac pilots
>with congressional approval doesn’t even come
>close in comparison to what Bruce is talking
>about. Their aviation credentials for the task
>assigned at the beginning of the Huey’s intro
>into Vietnam were far beyond anything in my
>limited knowledge of Army aviation
>history. I think Bruce has good reason to make
>his point. Hank “FYI, most of the assault
>commanders that went over with the Cav were
>Corps of Engineer officers and among the most
>experienced Aviators in the Army. All of us had
>flown in Topo units and been together for about
>10 years. I had A Company 229th, Dick Rogers B
>co. Cornelius (Jon) Radu D co, Too Tall Ed
>Freeman was my 1st platoon CO and Pyne Gramly
>my ops officer. The 11th AVN Gp staff for later
>LTG Al Burdette were all Engineer majors. (
>Bob Flint, Del Degeniffe, Hugh West and I
>believe a Gonzalez). The Corps had 2 units in
>Topo with over a hundred aviators assigned. One
>out of Calif 30th Topo, supporting the mapping
>in the Arctic and later Libya and Iran and the
>other out of Panama (The
>Inter-American Geodetic Survey IAGS) with
>aviators assigned in most countries supporting
>Central and South American national mapping
>operations. All aviators were dual fixed and
>rotor qualified. All in the Cav probably had
>close to 5000 hours or more of flight time
>before Vietnam. We all were qualified in l-19s,
>Beavers and Otters as well as small helicopters
>and Huey's. All of us that had flown in the
>Arctic were qualified in floats and skis as
>well. Gen Burdette loved Engineer aviators
>and kept most of us in our jobs for the whole
>of our first tours. Many of us went back to
>Topo before our after our tours in Vietnam. Most
>completed at least 20 years before retiring and
>some of us almost 30. Four or five retired
>as Colonels and the rest as LTCs except one
>major. There were a number of DFCs, several
>Silver Stars and the first 2 Medals of Honor for
>helicopter aviators in any branch of Service in
>history. In my judgment, the contribution
>of Engineers to Army aviation history has long
>been overlooked or ignored. Just some thoughts
>to get off my graying chest.� Snake
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