[Vhfcn-l] H-2 Crashes

[VHFCN1 Pilots and Crew]

This all raises questions in my mind.   How could the MFR create such 
beast that did not have a means to prevent the cable from getting 
wrapped up in it...and why did the Navy accept that design...and what 
is a BZ. Hell I was raised in a Navy Town...(Newport, R>I>) and never 
heard of a serious BZ. or any kind of a BZ. And lastly... there you 
are hovering over the ocean blue...How did you know you were off to 
the side of where the missile would pop up?  As for the H=19...My 
experience watching it would say it was a good helicopter for its 
time.  My early years in Army Aviaition and the H-19 was observing it 
coming from 1st Army Headquarters located on Govners Island  located 
off the tip of Manhatten better known to most in the known as South 
Ferry.  They had an Airfield on the island and a couple of aircraft 
in their Aviation Section which included an H-19.  One pilot who 
always flew it was a Capt Jones.   He could make that 19 do all sorts 
of things in the air that I know only one of our pilots would 
attempt.  By his actions there on Miller Army Air Field  showing off 
he should have been a Warrent Officer.

He came to Miller Field often because the Field Maintenance shop for 
First Army which now would be referred to as Direct Support 
Maintenance. He would always visit us across the ramp to shoot the 
bull and drink a good cup of coffee. Had a great sense of 
humor.  When you could not see across the ramp to the Field 
Maintenance Shop from our hangar due to thick sea fog he would come 
flying their old rattle trap in and land.  One day he came in and 
visited in 0-0 conditions and a bunch of us were shooting the bull 
and I popped off and asked him how in the hell did he find his way 
across NY Bay and around to Miller Field without running into the 
Statue of Liberty?  He says to me, Chris what you do is hover off of 
the runway over the water there at Govoners Island and you slow hover 
north along the shore until you get off our Ferry Landing. Then you 
follow the ferry across to South Ferry and you wait until Staten 
Island Ferry leaves and you hover off the back end of it until it 
pulls into the landing over here.  You make a left turn and head east 
past the Coasties Station and the Class 6 store and keep going 
watching the shore line until you come up  on the old Fort Wadworth 
and keep sight of the shoreline and make a right heading south 
until  you see the old Observation Tower. You call the Control Tower 
and tell them you are about to settle on the Ramp and they clear me 
to land at my desecration. One of the guys asked him how he got back 
to Gov Island.  I remember him looking at the guy and then at us and 
shaking his head ...well son if it is still foggy out there you go 
back the same way you came here, but usually the fog has burned off 
so we climb out of here and can see to the Island and we fly direct, 
and at the end he raised his eyes to the ceiling again shaking his head.

If I remember right he had flown helicopters in Korea during that 
war.  Two of our pilots had also flown helicopters during the Korean  War too.
Chris the Bigfoot.



     At 09:26 AM 8/19/2019, VHFCN1 Pilots and Crew via Vhfcn-l wrote:


> > On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, VHFCN1 Pilots and Crew via Vhfcn-l 
> <vhfcn-l at vhfcn.org> wrote:
> >
> > Damn, and just by chance you identified a killer problem and kept 
> others from dying just doing their jobs.  I guess the Navy would 
> have given you a serious BZ.  Moe
>
>Nope. The only one who thought it was a big deal was my old buddy, 
>Jim Long at the Naval Air Safety Center. We flew together on the 
>Polaris Project  with Navy photographers down in the cabin of our 
>tired old H-19. I have a photo of the first submerged launch of the 
>A3 Polaris. The missile came out ofthe water and tipped toward US! 
>Then the rocket motor came on and The thrust corrected, but the 
>exhaust was then pointed at us.
>
>What a friggin STINK from the exhaust of a Polaris! Jim and I were 
>both choking and crying from the exhaust. We could hardly see. How 
>many people have smelled the exhaust of an A3 Polaris? The Polaris 
>also makes a whole lot of noise close up. Shook the H-19.
>
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