[Vhfcn-l] Please consider
Lance Pinamonte
randr at bresnan.net
Wed Apr 8 19:10:02 EDT 2020
Yep, I don’t have a problem with religion.. But it is like someone having a big pecker, good for you, but don’t wave it in my face.. LOL
> On Apr 3, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Ken Hand via Vhfcn-l <vhfcn-l at lists.vhfcn.org> wrote:
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> Guys, This has been civil so far, let's keep it that way. I enjoy a spirited DEBATE but keep it that way. If you don't know what a debate is look it up.
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> From: comanchespark--- via Vhfcn-l <vhfcn-l at lists.vhfcn.org>
> To: Ken Hand <vairmech at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 9:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vhfcn-l] Please consider
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> More than 3000 Christians killed in 2018, that is a lot of discrimination,, top that
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> Bill Cody
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> On Friday, April 3, 2020, 07:34:57 PM EDT, Jerry Feldman via Vhfcn-l <vhfcn-l at lists.vhfcn.org> wrote:
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> Good posts. A lot is ethnicity. But many Hispanics are white Europeans. But
> some is religion. I've been told by a fellow warrior on helivets that jews
> will go to hell. Fortunately Jews do not believe in hell. We go to boot
> camp for up to a year before heaven. In general Islam Judaism and
> Christianity practice and preach peace. It is the extremists who don't.
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> Many Jews Muslims and Christian are secular and don't actively go to their
> houses of worship weekly.
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> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 7:10 PM Patrick Pavey <patrickpavey at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Please excuse my ignorance as first off, I am not a Jew and if I have been
>> discriminated against, I have not realized it. Jerry, I totally agree with
>> your statement regarding Jews being discriminated a lot more than
>> Christians, I also agree with your statement regarding being able to
>> practice your religion in the manners you please. So why this message?
>> Okay, my pea brain wonders if it is more about ethnicity than it is
>> religion.
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>> This is what I perceive and please correct me if I’m out in left field.
>> Hatred of Jews is akin to the hatred of Arabs, of Hispanics, of African
>> Americans. It has more to do with race and ethnicity. Oh, sure, there are
>> those fundamentilist Christians who want to hold a grudge against the Jews
>> for the crucifictian of Jesus but that does not address the bigger issue.
>> There seems to be some impression that Jews have un upper hand over the non
>> Jews. I don’t know where that comes from but it is similar to the hatred of
>> the Hispanics since they are taking all of our jobs, or the African
>> Americans, who are getting everything handed to them on a silver patter,
>> thus, again, taking our jobs. And what about the Arabs? You notice I didn’t
>> say Muslims, mainly because many idiots don’t know the difference.
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>> I mentioned that I think the whole issue with Jews is more about ethnicity
>> than religion. I come up with this because I know many Jews do not practice
>> their religion but they still face discrimination. Okay, that may be too
>> simplified but it is how my brain works. Bottom line, I don’t understand
>> any of it. I don’t understand the deep seated hatred of Jews that came out
>> of the 1900’s, I don’t understand the current hatred of Arabs, Hispanics,
>> of African Americans. I’m not trying to say I’m perfect in any way, but
>> simply I just don’t understand it. Hatred just seems so senseless.
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>> Now, let me tell you about those jerks, the Republicans…oh, wait, no
>> politics here…sorry.
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>> *From: *Jerry Feldman via Vhfcn-l <vhfcn-l at lists.vhfcn.org>
>> *Sent: *Friday, April 3, 2020 12:05 PM
>> *To: *Patrickpavey at comcast.net
>> *Subject: *Re: [Vhfcn-l] Please consider
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>> Personally, I don't like Republicans or Democrats. I've been unenrolled
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>> virtually all my life. I have voted both Democrat and Republican in local
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>> and federal elections. We have a very good republican governor who I voted
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>> for. My NYC family members are pretty far left. I tend to be more moderate,
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>> but for many on this forum, center means left.
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>> Jews have been persecuted a lot more than Christians, both overseas and in
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>> the US.
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>> WRT:Religion. We should all be allowed to practice our religions in the
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>> manners we please, but in the same manner not impose it on others.
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>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 12:17 PM comanchespark--- via Vhfcn-l <
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>> vhfcn-l at lists.vhfcn.org> wrote:
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>>> Your post seemed to me to be 85% political
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>>> If things were made in America, If the borders were controlled, vetting
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>>> immigrants, decisive response instead of appeasement and past Presidents
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>>> would have fulfilled their oaths, the World would be a much better place
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>>> now instead of things in turmoil the world over with conflict, disease,
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>>> persecution of Christians, etc.
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>>> Bill Cody
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>>> On Friday, April 3, 2020, 11:25:03 AM EDT, Gary Thewlis via Vhfcn-l <
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>>> vhfcn-l at lists.vhfcn.org> wrote:
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>>> I do not and cannot know the ideological or political affiliations of
>> the
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>>> comrades on this net. Some are definite in their positions and
>> statements,
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>>> many or most are not. Regardless, we all share common experience for
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>>> cohesion.
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>>> For the record I will state I am a lifelong Democrat with all that
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>>> and implies, but that is truly not the point here. Concern for the lives
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>>> everyone and for the life of our republic and our way of life is.
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>>> I believe I know what leadership is, what the acceptance of
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>>> is, what the fulfillment of an oath is.
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>>> And I know what it is not.
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>>> That lens gives clarity not just to but beyond the covid-19 crisis.
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>>> I believe it is up to each of us to not only help each other, but to save
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>>> so
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>>> much that is, frankly, under siege.
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>>> Please consider that.
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>>> Gary Thewlis
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